Friday, February 19, 2010
He is replacing them with Thom's Catastrophe Theory because, in looking at the form of the fold, Cartesian order of space is broken up with a "possible new relationship between vertical and horizontal" in which form is continuous.
I guess when he argues against figure/ground architectural thinking he could be talking about Cartesian coordinate system--however, Eisenman only mentions Cartesian coordinate system as only a description of some Leibniz' thinking as 'turning its back to Cartesian rationalism' because he suggested 'the smallest element in the labyrinth of the continuous is not the point but the fold.' Then goes on to talk about the fold as articulating a different kind of relationship between vertical and horizontal, or between figure and ground--something as revolutionary as breaking up Cartesian orders of space.
What is it about that continuous transition between ground and figure or vertical and horizontal that is so impossible in Cartesian space?
2: What is he replacing?
I suppose the answer you're looking for is topology since its been what we've been talking about. But in my limited understanding of topology, I get the impression that topology more about the relationship or connectivity of things rather than the elasticity of space as shown in the folded or bent Cartesian coordinate system that Eisenman obviously has interest in.
3: and why?
Searching in the space between figure and ground (what he calls fold) I think he hopes to find a bridge between Architecture and building--(The ideas associated with building and the manifestation of building). As an idea, its not a bad way to approach the problem but I still don't quite follow the how or the execution of these ideas within any processes yields the non-traditional, or non extruded architecture he envisions.
An extruded plan on a folded coordinate system is still topologically an extruded plan.
"In the idea of the fold, form is seen not only as continuous but also articulating a possible new relationship between figure and ground, thereby breaking up the existing Cartesian order of space."
"continual variation of matter... characterized through the agency of the fold." "first defined culturally in the baroque"
Eisenman replaces traditional architectural theory with the notion of the fold as a "third condition", somewhere in between plan and section, figure and ground.
"the idea of the fold gives the traditional idea of an edge a dimension," opposed to an abrupt line the fold offers a volumetric dimension which Eisenman argues can be used as a re-framing of sorts, and applies it to social organizations and the urban environment.
Thursday, February 18, 2010
Geometry, Cartesian order of model, figure/ground contextualism
2: What is he replacing?
Topology, the event based interactive way of capturing space such as the catastrophe theory
3: and why?
Because architecture can no longer be bound by the static conditions of space and place. Traditional architectural theory which focuses on figure/ground contextualism has largely ignored the idea of the event. Now it is time to face with the problem of the event which the catastrophe theory can deal with.
Friday, February 12, 2010
All animals are mortal.
and; All humans are animals.
then; All humans are mortal.
"animal" is a categorie of "mortal". Also, "human" is a categorie of "animal". Thus, the conclusion of the syllogism is that "human" is a categorie of "mortal".
2) On page 3, Barr talks about a line being like a string, where it can be manipulated into many shapes without individual points that make up the line changing in order. Going further, the string could even concieved as an elastic band, where the distance between the points can possibly change.
Every arrangement of that string or elastic band has its own "geometry", but its "topology" is unchanging, provided the string isn't cut or attached back onto itself.
3) In many stages of design development, architecture is looked at in purely topological terms. For example, a program diagram may show the different building spaces using vague (bubble) shapes and lines that represent physical connections. This allows the designer to begin to plan the spaces without introducing specific geometry.
The terms topology and geometry explored by Barr on pages 2 and 3 describe the permanence associated with topology versus the contingencies associated with topology. Furthermore, the strict parameters of geometry are identified as characteristically opposed to the understanding of topology.
Social and emotional affects and effects of architecture are not always direct results of physical geometry. Although light, air, orientation, acoustics and other environmental influences are often quantified using computational software, the attitudes and persuasions of a designer are difficult to describe or predict in pure geometry.
Probably everything Barr says can probably be construed to somehow relate to geometry but before going to far into it, I found the discussion starting on page 5 about how something can still be alike even when its been taken apart and reassembled so long as the order is still the same. Not sure why it bothers me, perhaps its because I think of it in terms of geometric operations of stretching and for for cutting and reattaching there isn't such a neat geometric operation.
Again, probably everything can eventually be construed to relate geometry to architecture (at least the parts of it we like) but for the sake of discussion I think one area where it doesn't quite relate is when architects design an effect or environmental change without necessarily designing how it can happen.
If for example: if an architect may only be concerned with the temperature of the room insomuch that it is habitable by people, they wouldn't care about the geometric arrangement of the room, or mechanical systems (geometrically designed to perform) necessary to produce a specific temperature, just that the effect is achieved.
1. Syllogism is a kind of system which can be used to prove logics. Things have to be categorized when you use syllogism.
2. On pages 2~3, Barr mentioned about main geometric characteristics of the things which don’t change by distortion or stretching.
3. Geometry is not used in the concept, program diagram, adjacency diagram, style, and color.
Syllogism depends on Aristotle's categories by using systematic logic to determine relationships of things.
2. Where in Barr's text do you find something different than geometry?
Barr begins to describe topology as "a state of mind-and its own goal" and "space as we usually understand it is left far behind" once topology is understood. p2.
3. Where do we not use geometry in architecture?
Perhaps in virtual space when generating algorithms, but even so, the experience of these things are happening in a space dependent on geometry.
2) Just as Aristotle used the syllogism to create broader and broader categories within a membership by reducing its description to as few common characteristics and discarding unlike elements, topology seeks to find a more fundamental insight to the spatial relations between elements by reducing their description and relinquishing both measurable quantity and orientation that are so crucial to the representation of Euclidean geometry within Cartesian space. For example, on page 4 of the reading on topology, Barr states that a "line does not have to remain straight" in topology. In a strict geometric interpretation, where a line is defined by three points within a straight relationship, once this alignment is broken, the element would now have to be called a curve or suffer division into two independent 'straight' lines. In the topological sense, the definition of a line is reduced to "the quality of being continuously connected along itself."
3) The aesthetic appreciation of the visceral experience of architecture is not done by algorithm. Nor the budget.
Thursday, February 11, 2010
Syllogism is a rule and system. Categories are produced by syllogism which is all the rules.
2: Topology where in Barr's text do you find something different than geometry?
(Page.2) ...the study of continuity: beginning with the continuity of space, or shapes, it generalize, and then by analogy leads into other kinds of continuity-and space as we usually understand it is left far behind.
3: where do we NOT use geometry in architecture?
Time, perception, space, change, continuity, distortion, stretching
In last week’s class, we learned that one of the functions of categorization is to isolate a way of thinking that is systematic. Syllogisms are very systematic in the way that they use deductive reasoning, a tactful approach using logical consequences.
2. Where in Barr's text do you find something different than geometry?
Geometry is described as the study of figures in a space of a given number of dimensions and of a given type. On page 2, Barr says that in topology, “space as we usually know it is left far behind.” Wouldn’t the removal of space disqualify something as geometry?
3. Where do we not use geometry in architecture?
I’m going to have to agree with Andri and say that we are always using geometry in the design side of architecture.
Categories are based on distinct identities. I believe that catergories are aided by syllogism which reveals (intentionally and unintentionally) an array of finite characteristics and function.
2. Barr
What about the entire underlying notion that is based on viewing geometric shapes topologically according to their geometric definition. For example, on page 12 there is a pentagon and a topological pentagon. The only thing that makes these similar is the fact that they each have 5 verticies and 5 edges. Whether or not the lines are straight is irrelevant. That is not to be considered by the viewer. It's a differnt state of mind in a way.
3. No geometry in architecture
Other than the obvious negotiating and writing of contracts one could argue that the assembly of material schedules does not use geometry. Yes the physical materials relate to geometry but simply specifying a particular brand and assigning materials to their respective locations does not require geometry.
1. How does the Syllogism relate to categories?
Aristotle defines syllogism as "a discourse in which, certain things having been supposed, something different from the things' supposed results of necessity because these things are so." Meaning if all animals are mortal and all humans are animals then all humans are mortal.
2. Where in Barr's text do you find something different than geometry?
Since topology is so difficult to define, it can have a different meaning than just being a kind of geometry, Barr states that "one might almost say it is a state of mind" and that it has it's own goal.
3. Where do we not use geometry in architecture?
In design we are always using geometry in one way or another. The only place I can think of where we are not using geometry is when we are arguing with clients about issues such as time schedules and budget, although those arguments are evidently about geometrical shapes of some sort.